Lying the country into a messy occupation, and committing atrocities while there, would be prima facie reasons for impeachment.

But I noted in my essay, and will repeat here that I have no expectation or desire to see an impeachment succeed. That there isn’t time should be obvious. But if it is on the floor of the House and receiving active House attention, Bush may not pardon. They means his options for preventing the REAL courts from judging his administration are limited.

Thanks for writing to me.

bob letcher

This is a discussion that’s been going on long before We! Magazine came upon the scene. While your articles on the auto industry are certainly worthy of comment, this is a very important issue. Our justice system is based on the idea of evidence supporting theory. As an academic and scientist, I’m sure you agree.

Those of us who have carried this discussion forward often agree to disagree until someone pulls off the scab and starts the bloodletting again. Such is the case with so many disagreements, as I’m sure you know.

What about all the other matters that sensible people could argue — just as sensibly as people arguing here doubtlessly see themselves as arguing — merited attention too, or even instead of the subject that has drawn now 23 comments? Personally, i wrote my best effort on the two pieces on the auto sector currently up. I would greatly appreciate your directing some of your energies toward reactioning to what i wrote there.

The Bush Administration was given was given authority for use of force by Congress in September of 2001. In that authority, Congress did not ask for irrefutable proof that nations or people were involved with the planning and execution of the WTC attack. It gave the executive discretion to use force against any person or nation the president determined was involved.

In other words, you want Congress to impeach Bush because he did what they told him he could do.

The law is science, Maggie, and cases are made by creating legal theory and applying evidence to prove the theory. Vincent Bugliosi has one theory- Elizabeth de la Vega has another and Elizabeth Holtzmann has yet another. But legal theory does not substitute for evidence. Without evidence, theory has no standing. The same holds true for Dennis Kucinich. While he crafted an interesting document filled with allegations, again, the proof was lacking.

It’s not a matter of what kind of crimes the Bush Adminstration have to commit to meet my standards for impeachment. Until the evidence of those crimes can meet legal standards, the alleged crimes are only that- alleged- which I’ve said time and time again.

I ask you, Maggie. If a prosecutor was trying to make a case against you for an indictment, wouldn’t you want the prosecutor to have evidence that backed the theory of your alleged crime? Because that’s the slippery slope we’re entering into.

Larry

Lying & starting an illegal war is damn sure not a misdemeanor but if you want to call it that, fine, just impeach the bastard and get the show on the road.

Bush has been acting like a tin pot dictator, making his own damn laws and only a few people have tried to stop him. Dennis Kucinich has listed 35 items for impeachment if I remember correctly.

Vincent Bugloisi has made an excellent case for trying that worm for murder. Bush/Cheney have murdered almost 5000 U.S. soldiers with their illegal war and wounded another 20-25 thousand that they admit to. The war dead number may be higher too, as it has been said that it doesn’t count unless they die on the battle field.

What kind of crimes do these bastards have to commit to meet your standards for impeachment?

People have been sent to their deaths in the US justice system for lesser crimes.

So where’s the evidence? Eddie says there’s a boxcar full, yet what I keep reading are accusations.

Larry

That’s the question I have been asking for several years now and especially now, near the end of this reign of terror by Bush and cronies.

All they have to do is get the impeachment process under way…. they can let it drag until January 21! We need to stop that pardon pen.

“The link has been “disabled for my safety” ;~) Imagine that?”

Any way this is what he tried to post:

But here’s why I want them Tried, Convicted and Hung: In a land of LAW ya shouldn’t be allowed to get away with breaking those LAWS just by saying you don’t recognize the LAW. AND if the Dems don’t pursue this corruption in some manner, THEY become as corrupt as the others. PLUS the people of this Nation NEED to be told/shown WHAT our LAWS are & how they work.

Tim